Participant’s View: Consuming Baseball Then and Now — Half Two

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Throughout spring coaching, I requested 10 present large leaguers how they adopted the sport rising up, and the way that has modified since they started enjoying professionally. As anticipated, all of them famous vital variations. Not followers following their favourite groups and gamers, they devour baseball in a distinctly completely different method, even because the mediums by means of which they take within the sport stay a lot the identical.

Following up on that March 8 piece, I requested a brand new subset of baseball professionals a lot the identical query. 4 are former gamers who are actually managing, whereas two are former gamers who are actually broadcast analysts. In every case, how they devour the sport has developed not as soon as, however twice.

Here’s what they needed to say. Their solutions have been edited and condensed for readability.

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John Schneider, Toronto Blue Jays supervisor:

“For me, it’s all the time been related. That possibly sounds humorous, however whether or not it was as a fan, participant, coach, or supervisor, I’ve all the time been within the technique of the sport. Being a catcher, you type of take a look at a sport that method naturally. What most followers wish to see is their favourite gamers — you need them to hit residence runs, issues like that — after which as a supervisor, you’re all the time questioning what strings one other supervisor would possibly pull, or at the very least attempt to pull. So, it’s related for me, however on the identical time clearly slightly completely different.

“Being a younger child rising up in New Jersey, I used to be a Yankees fan. Donnie [Mattingly] was one in all my favourite gamers. However yeah, you watch video games and take into consideration who’s developing the following inning or two and the way they’re going to beat the opposite group. I’ve all the time watched it that method.

“I nonetheless watch video games now. If we’re enjoying at evening and there’s a day sport… baseball is type of all the time on. You’re all the time interested in how groups are lining up their batting orders, deploying their bullpens, or no matter it could be. You’re all the time attempting to select up little issues. Do you play the infield in? Do you play them again? Why do you do it? Who’s developing? Who’s accessible within the bullpen? I believe whenever you do it daily, you type of watch with that type of eye.

“I learn extra now than I did as a child. Again then, it was extra watching than studying. I attempt to preserve myself open to individuals who have had extra and completely different experiences than me. Whether or not it’s a guide, a podcast, or an interview, I attempt to soak up all of these issues, seeing what persons are saying. I imply, rising up, I used to look at managers’ press conferences. I used to be that type of nerd.”

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Kevin Money, Tampa Bay Rays supervisor:

“Rising up, I used to be largely enjoying, however I actually watched WGN and TBS. Any time a playoff sport got here on, I’d watch. It was extra that I used to be a fan of my favourite gamers, after which within the postseason I’d most likely latch onto a group. Being from Tampa, we didn’t have a group but, so it was fairly straightforward to be type of a Braves fan. They have been all the time on TV. I keep in mind at school, any time we had a guide mission mine had one thing to do with a baseball story. Matt Christopher was an writer. Catcher With a Glass Arm. I learn that one.

“When you begin enjoying [professionally], it’s straightforward to devour your self along with your efficiency, your growth. Do I see myself attending to the massive leagues? What do I have to do? You’re actually being attentive to the gamers forward of you and the way good they’re. Within the large leagues, they’re setting a excessive bar. You additionally don’t have loads of time to look at video games. Earlier than MLB Community, it was watching Sports activities Middle and Baseball Tonight. All that stuff. Highlights.

“How a lot [do I consume] now? I want I used to be again in Little League. There are loads of stories to be learn, loads of preparation. As a catcher, you’d stability it slightly bit, since you tried to be actually ready, however it’s positively completely different now. And I’ve rather more appreciation for a way difficult the sport is, how onerous the sport is. At the same time as a participant, I didn’t admire it almost as a lot as I do now.”

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Alex Avila, MLB Community analyst:

“Rising up, I watched ESPN Baseball Tonight on a nightly foundation. That’s how I obtained my baseball repair except for watching the native broadcasts. I used to be in South Florida, so it was Florida Marlins, or I might watch the Cubs on WGN or the Braves on TBS. That’s how I consumed baseball as a child. That and thru magazines like Sports activities Illustrated.

“As a participant, you take a look at it extra from a contest standpoint. You’re attempting to log data, understanding that you simply’re going to be going through that group, or that pitcher, or these hitters, in some unspecified time in the future. As soon as I grew to become a participant, that’s extra how I might watch video games; I’d type of be placing collectively scouting stories in my very own head. After all, whenever you’re on the ballpark, you’ve gotten issues to do to prepare. Lots of instances, video games would type of be on [TV] within the background.

“It’s positively completely different for me now. As a participant, I’d devour video games once I was on the ballpark, however went I obtained residence, I might normally attempt to disconnect slightly bit. Now I’m watching baseball nearly 24/7. With the MLB app, I can get video games that I wish to see that aren’t broadcast domestically. My spouse jokes that I watch extra baseball now than I ever did as a participant.

“I can watch like a fan now, for positive. And I get pleasure from that. However there are specific issues I’ll discover {that a} common fan may not. If I’m watching a sport with individuals who don’t have the data or entry that I had, they may ask me questions on one thing that could be occurring — just like the X’s and O’s. I type of nonetheless watch it that method, however I get pleasure from it extra as a fan.

“I learn lots from the media once I was a participant, type of gauging what folks have been saying about our group, but additionally opposing groups. That was a great way to get data on them. Now I’m studying on a regular basis, maintaining with all of the various things happening all through the sport. It’s a part of my job. I’ll learn what the beat writers are writing to assist in giving me a gist of what’s occurring with groups that I’ll be speaking about.”

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Brian Anderson, Tampa Bay Rays TV analyst:

“I grew up in Northeast Ohio, in Geneva, and I believe the Indians have been possibly on TV 30-35 instances a 12 months, so I listened lots on the radio. Our home was proper throughout from a tire store my father owned — slightly tire store — and when he would get off work at 5 o’clock, we’d exit to play baseball. We’d put the radio on and take heed to Herb Rating name the sport whereas we have been on the market enjoying. As I obtained older and the TV packages obtained slightly bit larger, you then have been capable of see extra on TV, however my early childhood recollections of following baseball was field scores within the Ashtabula Star Beacon the next morning and radio calls the evening earlier than.

“To this present day, once we go to Cleveland they usually play an outdated clip on the Jumbotron, and I hear Herb Rating’s voice, I’m eight years outdated once more. It’s unimaginable. And once I performed for them in 1996-97, he nonetheless was working. To have him calling a sport that I used to be pitching blew my thoughts. It was such a cool factor.

“Once I performed for Arizona, you’d get to the ballpark and the East Coast video games had began. Some could be on within the clubhouse. You wouldn’t sit there and watch a sport, however you’d catch snippets right here and there. I keep in mind sitting there watching Kerry Wooden when he struck out 20. Because it started to construct, all people began to collect round, seeing how excessive he might get with the variety of strikeouts.

“Now I get to devour nearly each single Rays sport; I take off possibly 12 or 13 a 12 months. I’m watching our sport intently whereas it’s happening, however I do discover myself going residence and flipping on the package deal occasionally, and can go to sleep to a West Coast sport. I’ll possibly watch on an off day, too. Sooner or later, you wish to get away from it slightly bit, however generally you get a very good matchup and assume, ‘I type of wish to watch that.’

“I watch due to my curiosity within the sport. Having performed the sport at this stage — I used to be lucky sufficient to for pitch for 13 seasons — I’m not a fan anymore. Now, I would like the Rays to do effectively. After all. You construct relationships with the blokes downstairs. The teaching employees. You need them to do effectively. You need them to win the championship. Nevertheless it’s not like a fan. If they’ve a troublesome loss, I’m simply going to go residence to mattress. I’m not a fan anymore. I imply, am I a fan of the Cleveland Browns? Completely. Am I a fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs? Completely. Once they lose video games it bothers me. Baseball? No. I hope sure groups and sure people do effectively, and I like good tales, however I don’t dwell and die with it like I used to. By no means.”

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Bob Melvin, San Francisco Giants supervisor:

“Rising up, I knew each batting common. I might inform you the beginning lineup for most likely each group within the large leagues. Even developing [as a player], watching the sport the way in which I did, that was the case. Moving into teaching, I might inform you each coach on each group as effectively. There’s much more turnover now, from 12 months to 12 months. Guys aren’t staying with groups so long as they did earlier than. There was five- or six-man teaching staffs, and now some are 10, 12, 14. So now I attempt to prioritize what’s vital to me. I gained’t take a look at the field scores each single day; I’ll deal with the group we’re enjoying, and possibly the group we’re enjoying subsequent. I attempt to decrease that, as a result of there may be loads of noise. There are loads of issues to learn on the market. I attempt to streamline now.

“Being a participant, you’re nonetheless a baseball fan. I most likely watched and skim greater than I do now. Nevertheless it did begin to taper off after awhile. When you develop into slightly extra skilled it turns into, ‘The one factor that’s actually significance is that this sport, this collection.’ Who you play subsequent will get placed on the again burner. The additional you go alongside, the extra you attempt to decrease all of the noise that’s on the market.

“Now, you’re getting each sport. It’s not simply the Saturday Sport of the Week. Radio… most likely not as a lot, regardless that I get pleasure from listening to baseball on the radio. We now have guys right here like Jon Miller who’re incredible. However there are such a lot of retailers, so many articles, and so many various spins on issues. There’s a lot evaluation now. It appears like there’s a lot to digest and comprehend. So once more, I attempt to streamline it to what I believe is vital to me.”

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Craig Counsell, Chicago Cubs supervisor:

“The information has modified. TV has modified. There was no MLB Community. Each sport wasn’t on in your clubhouse within the afternoon. You simply didn’t see gamers as a lot, particularly within the different league. As a participant, I didn’t have data of the complete league, as a result of it wasn’t till the top of my enjoying days that you may watch each sport. Getting to look at the gamers that we didn’t get to play towards that a lot, like within the American League, was all the time enjoyable.

“I did [consume a lot of baseball] as a child, as a result of my dad labored for the Brewers. He labored within the workplace. He was the Director of Group Relations, however he additionally wrote for his or her journal, threw batting observe and was their video man. He could be within the clubhouse almost daily and I might tag together with him.

“I learn Baseball Digest. Baseball Weekly was an enormous deal. I’d experience my bike to the grocery retailer to get Baseball Weekly when it got here out, I imagine on Wednesdays. These have been the 2 publications that I type of keep in mind. As soon as I grew to become a participant, I consumed much less. Now [as a manager] I don’t actually examine historic issues within the sport a lot as I attempt to study new issues which are coming into the sport. I do learn FanGraphs.”



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